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Covid Forever?

After facing backlash for his comments about the Covid-19 vaccine, Aaron Rodgers hopes to see more "healthy debates." The Green Bay Packers quarterback said during an appearance on the Pat McAfee Show that opponents of his choices should have real conversations before calling for his cancelation.

"How are you ever going to understand your opinion better unless you hear both sides of the argument?" Rodgers asked. "And that's what I would say to those who hate on me or discredit any opinion I have on the vaccine is that I've done research on both sides."

The future Hall-of-Famer faced criticism in November when he tested positive for Covid-19 after claiming he'd been previously "immunized." Soon after, Rodgers admitted he hadn't been vaccinated, saying he was allergic to the mRNA vaccines and was avoiding the Johnson & Johnson vaccine's adverse effects. Rodgers had opted to take Ivermectin.

Rodgers said many of his critics make assumptions and resort to personal attacks.

"Let's have a healthy debate… We might not change our thoughts, but we can't have a healthy dialogue without name calling and mudslinging and calling someone anti-vaxxers?" he asked, later adding, "When did we lose the ability to respect somebody's opinion?" (I would add “listen to & evaluate” others’ opinions)

From Parler article, my emphasis

JE Notes:
What’s missing in the loud, continuous, contentious Leftist media is this very point! America was designed for the discussion to find the best, not the absolute! One or several things never work for everybody.

Ivermectin is the second medicine to be cancelled by the media. This is in spite of doctors use of it with patients. The first was hydroxychloroquine. HCQ, for short, was even cleared for use for on corona viruses by Fauci in 2005. There are several other medicines that may be useful. Both these drugs are inexpensive. Is someone making big money with the “vaccines”? Are the “vaccines” really free? What other medicine might they deny the use?
Early treatment of any disease is the best & what American doctors prefer!

Doctors treating covid-19 are being cancelled. When they try to communicate their results, the information is deemed “misinformation”! Who is more credible, the doctors or the bureaucrats!? The epidemiologists, the doctors who are successfully treating the disease, or the loud bureaucrats & government/media voices supposedly saying acceptable, “scientific” things?? They are seemingly destroying medicine for the sake of power, control & money!

These things were being made known in March or April 2020! The proper responses would have been to
1) study what was being used (this was done, but not by Fauci),
2) share the information with the nation and world—you know, with media telling the truth,
3) follow up with the suggestion of vulnerable populations (this was also shared but not by Fauci). Shutting down everything with any hope & insisting on things that have not worked & been destructive for some, this is what has been promoted for over a year.

The fear tactics and the avoiding real information are the signs of manipulation and intense indoctrination. Free citizens must take note. America has been taken away for the last year and a half or more!
One of the most serious problems in the complex of false information is the avoidance of total truth. The experts are denied. Possible useful information is cancelled. Truth is required and
real science calls for testing it. The serious untruths are not allowed to be tested. True information is denied. How useful has all of this been?????

Information examples perverted or ignored:
“herd immunity”?
(a large percent of the population who have had the disease and have antibodies),
(many people have had the virus and didn’t know it! They should not be required
to take the “vaccines” and “boosters”!)
preventative medicine studies and use
(this information has existed since around March of 2020)
the seriousness of the disease to certain parts of the population
(the older people & anyone with other serious illnesses—“comorbidities”)
(the virus is more contagious but mostly less serious than the flu for 90%+
of the population)
the problems created or made worse by masking & lockdowns & waiting for the “vaccines”,
responsible doctors study these things and are not using medicines experimentally!
(that is the insinuation--“follow the science!”—when they are doing so!)

The electronic media and the broadcast media are calling the answers to these questions “misinformation”! The “alternative” electronic sites are talking about it & have been for
over a year. I have collected this information since April 2020.

The overarching problem to it all is the avoidance of any real truth! We must seek that, not that which may be the varying acceptable views in the culture! We must act in truth, not in fear, or only with emotion and violence.

We have government power out of control! It must be stopped by returning to the proper responsibilities. Much of this present control is destructive with at least partially false information. This has been so since the beginning of the pandemic.

Our great problem today—at least one of them—is the political and media misinformation that they cover up by accusing everyone else of misinformation! This is a classic Leftist ploy! We must seek better and truer information. We must act more responsibly! The drivers of false information must be removed by retirement, voted out and/or fired! They have done a good job for Leftists but a destructive job for America! This is what Leftists always do!

Seek real truth, American citizens! Be more responsible!
What we are suffering is none of that!
For those that have lost family members, this all made the problem worse for you!
Many of them could have been saved! It is totally sad, but true.

12/31/2021 je

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God's Image

This is one of my meditations and themes for the last several years. It is like a unfathomable, universe-wide subject. This is a good starting discussion of this subject. It is packed with meaning.

Humans are made in GOD’s Image and HIS likeness.

That Image in humans is this: our individual spirit & attributes.

The reason is so that we can relate to HIM. Our excuse that GOD isn’t human and a figment of our imagination is totally destroyed by Jesus. Freedom is in this discussion.

GOD created humans to be able to relate to HIM. Jesus came to be our individual, sinless Lamb of sacrifice. He will come again as the Messiah that the Jews are expecting but it will be to return believers (all those who have chosen to believe forever) to the Eden relationship with GOD. {The Biblical book of Leviticus is what perfect obedience would look like.
I finally understand its meaning and use.}

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While it is humanly impossible for humans to be totally good, we always can do much better than we have been doing if we individually want to do so! There is no concept that humans can totally achieve in this life. This applies individually, in groups or collectively.

The pathologies of today’s culture are apparent. However, they are called benefits & loudly proclaimed. They must be clearly seen as dangerous & wrong to our once-free country!
They are deliberately destroying Christianity, our country, our families, our individual personhood & our individual freedoms. Does this seem to be too extreme a statement?

Our media are calling evil “good” & good “evil”. Should that be totally right & silently allowed? Free speech & opinions must not live there? Freedom of speech is not absolute. This severe problem should be curtailed & limited within the proper bounds & situations!
Is it possible or allowed to seek those limits that do not destroy freedom of speech itself?

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I do not support ANY, ANY political personality cults!!!! Left, Right, middle, it doesn’t matter! If you take the political part out, it is still so! Is this clear enough? I don’t support cultish “groupyism”!

My expectation is that any American who wishes to serve America in a political office would speak and act in support of our cherished American principles that are reflected in the best writings of our founders and all sensible people since then!

I am disgusted by the pragmatic politics and the excessive partisanship that the media love, especially for Democrats, it seems. I am disgusted with the pro-to-total leftism in our media. They do not represent thinking, peaceful citizens’ views! Individual humans are all over the belief spectrum with the issues. That is why discussion is necessary!

The people that I enjoy watching and reading at least attempt to tell the truth as they see it and are willing to listen to varying opinions and discuss them! From libertarian to center ...

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